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CC Officially Announces 2019 is it.

Yankee Stadium Frieze

CC Sabathia officially announced Saturday what was known for a while (since he signed his 2019 contract)—that 2019 will be his last season. CC turns 39 in July.

Here are the highlights of his career so far:

246 wins. Needs 4 for 250, 10 to tie Andy Pettitte on the all-time list.
2986 strikeouts. Needs 14 for 3000.

Cleveland 2001-2008, Milwaukee 2008, Yankees 2009-2019. If a Hall of Famer, it may be difficult to distinguish between Cleveland and the Yankees for the cap for the Hall of Fame Plaque (much like Mussina couldn’t decide between Baltimore and the Yankees).

6X All-Star. 2009 ALCS MVP. Won 1 WS (2009 Yankees). 2nd in ROY in 2001. Twice led the majors in wins (2009 and 2010). 21 game winner in 2010.

Led league in starts 2x, CG once, shutouts once. IP once. 2007 CYA winner.

Got MVP consideration 5x, finishing 6th in 2008. In 2008 he led the majors in GS, CG and IP (didn’t lead league because he split time between the AL and NL). CYA consideration 5X.

15 or more wins in a season 8X.

162 game average 16-10, 3.70, ERA+ 117.

10-7, 4.31 in the postseason.

.212-3-15 as a hitter.

With the Yankees, he’s had three careers.

The first of staff ace, 2009-2012, when he averaged 18-7, 3.22 in those four years.

The second of struggling, aging pitcher who appeared finished. From 2013-2015, he went 23-27, 4.81. An average of 8-9, 4.81 per season. He missed most of 2014.

He kicked alcohol addiction and reinvented himself from 2016-2018 to be a serviceable backend-of-the-rotation pitcher, going 32-24, 3.76 over the past three seasons. If he can maintain that average and go 11-8, 3.76 in 2019 as the #5 starter, I think we’ll take it.

Hall-of-Fame? We’ll see. Some votes have me confused.

For example

CC 16-10, 3.70 162 game average. ERA+ 117. 10-7, 4.31 postseason. 1 CYA, 5x MVP consideration.
Black ink 22/40 (2nd # average HOF); Gray ink 174/185; HOF standards 113/100, HOF monitor 46/50. He is ranked 71st in JAWS for Starting pitcher, and his WAR numbers are about 80% of the average Hall-of Famer. WAR numbers:  62.7/39.4/51 (HOF are 73.4/50/61.7 average). With 10 wins he matches Pettitte’s 256.

Andy Pettitte, meanwhile, averaged 17-10, 3.85, ERA+ 117. 19-11, 3.81 postseason. 5x WS Champ as opposed to CC’s once. Never won the CYA, finished 2nd once, considered for it 5x, same as CC. 3rd in ROY 1995. MVP consideration 2x (CC was 5). Pettitte won 20 games in a season twice (CC once). 8x 15 or more wins in a season (same as CC). But black ink 7/40; Gray ink 103/185 (both less than CC). HOF standards 128/100 (better); HOF monitor 44/50.   JAWS 90th. War numbers 60.2/34.1/47.2.

Andy is slightly below CC, but Andy only got 9.9% of the vote this year from the writers. The HGH usage hurt him. There is no HGH hints with CC, but if Andy got only 9.9% of the vote, how is CC THAT much better than Andy where CC gets the 75% or more to get in (he won’t be eligible until 2025).

This isn’t a knock on CC’s HOF credentials, but a puzzlement on Andy only getting 9.9%. Andy wasn’t a strikeout pitcher (didn’t get 2500 K, while CC is almost at 3000) but to me, there isn’t THAT much difference between the two ….

But then, you wonder …. CC at 246 wins … HOF or not? Andy 256 has a long way to go to get 75% of the writer’s vote. Mike Mussina with 270 wins finally got in on his sixth year on the ballot.

We’ll forget about Clemens and his 354 wins (Steroid allegations), but just note two others not in the Hall: Jim Kaat (283 wins) and Tommy John (288). In the cases of Kaat and John, maybe they hung on too long. Both pitched into their 40s and maybe that is what people remember the most—them hanging on possibly a bit too long. As for John, only two pitchers (Clemens with the steroid issue and Bobby Mathews, a pitcher from the 1870s and 1880s) have more wins but are not in the Hall. Only one more (Tony Mullane 1880s and 1890s) isn’t in the Hall before you get to Kaat.

Those pre-1900 pitchers are a far different breed and ballgame.

But still, I’m scratching my head over who is HOF material and who isn’t from those guys I listed.  It’s a fine line between them getting in or not.



Game 29. Boston 5, Yanks 1.

Yankee Stadium Frieze

David Ortiz hit 2 of Boston’s 4 HR as the Yanks lost to Boston 5-1 Sunday night.

I have been screaming for years for pitchers to grow a pair and back him off the plate. No one ever does. I mean, the guy has 52 HR against you, beats you like a drum and you just let him dig in and get away with it?

I never see the Yanks—or ANYBODY—back him off the plate. Pitching inside is part of the game. You have to nail that inside corner, and if that means backing someone off the plate in order for you to do it, then you have to do so.

Instead, no one does. They just let him beat them over and over again.

When will someone grow a pair?

That doesn’t mean throw at his head. I mean aim one at his butt. Make him uncomfortable. Make him move his feet. No one ever does.

If Billy Martin were alive and managing, you can bet your sweet bippy that someone would have backed Ortiz off the plate.

Ortiz’ 2 HR enabled him to pass Yaz on Boston’s HR list, and gave him 512 for his career, passing Mel Ott and tying him with Eddie Mathews and Ernie Banks.

Two batters in, the game was over when Severino walked the leadoff hitter and gave up a 2-run HR to Pedroia. Severino gave up just 5 hits in 6 2/3, and struck out 9, but he gave up 3 HR in dropping to 0-5.

Ortiz homered off Severino in the 4th and 7th. Shreve gave up a HR to Bogaerts in the 8th.

All the Yanks managed was a HR by Gardner (3) in the bottom of the 9th. They only got 3 hits.

You knew the bottom of the Yanks’ lineup was going to be a problem going into the game. It was (current batting averages):
Ackley, .103; Hicks .122; Didi .227 and Headley .163.

Throw in that Teix  at.210 and Beltran .236 were 4 and 5 and they are slumping. Even Gardner is at just .239.

The lack of hitting goes back to last year. You hope and wonder when (if?) the bats will wake up. Their adjusted OPS (OPS+) is 85—15% below league average. The ERA+ is 93, 7% below league average. Those are not numbers conducive to winning.

Hopefully things get better soon.

Showing some gumption and pitching inside is a start.

The bats have to wake up too. I mean, Headley doesn’t have an extra base hit yet. Meanwhile, Bartolo Colon(!!!) has a HR.

Getting Chapman back today means nothing if the bats can’t give the bullpen a lead.

Severino (L, 0-5, 6.12) 6 2/3, 4 R , 5 H, 1 walk, 9 K. Gave up 3 HR.
Shreve 1 1/3 IP, 1 R, 2 H, 0 walks, 1 K. 4.91. Gave up 1 HR.
Barbato 1 IP, 0 R, 0 H, 0 walks, 0 K. 5.54.

Thoughts before the KC series.

OOPS! Rivera isn’t perfect, players make errors, and unfortunately, I made one (whips self 40 times with wet noodle).

Posada isn’t at .192 since 5/25, although he has slumped.

In the last 28 days, Jorge is at .224-3-10. In the last 14 days he has hit just .161. In the last seven days, just .133.

Since 5/31, he has hit .218. … and when you think about it, that really isn’t all that much better, especially since Cervelli is around .190-something since that time. Jorge turns 39 in a few days. Cause for worry about the aging catcher.  

It’s amazing how this team has the best record in baseball, what with so many underachieving.

Cervelli is down to .255. Ok, we didn’t expect a lot, but after the way he started…
Posada is also at .255. We expected more. Teix, despite 26 HR and 85 RBI, is only at .259.
Jeter, a .315 career hitter, is only at .280. Not bad, but on his way to his worst year. A-Rod is a .300 hitter hitting .264. Granderson…where do we begin? .239. Nick Johnson and Randy Winn giving virtually nothing. Burnett and Vazquez being basically .500 pitchers. Joba. Park.

It makes you wonder what this team could be like if they were really clicking, for even with all the sputters and false starts, they are still 70-43, and haven’t lost four in a row at any time this season.

I’m a bit concerned about the “dead arm” and lack of velocity from Javy Vazquez. He has been known as an innings-eater throughout his career, but is it catching up to him? Vazquez is barely a .500 pitcher for his career (151-147, 4.22, ERA+ 106) but has given 200 or more innings in every season (except for 2004) from 2000 on. The year he missed, 2004 with the Yanks, he gave 198. At present he has 123 IP, on course for about 170 to 175 or so….his lowest total since he gave the 1999 Expos 154 2/3 innings.

Deja Vu? Javy in 2004 for the Yanks… 14-10, 4.91, ERA+92. 
At present, he is on course for somthing like 13-11, 4.90. ERA+ 82. Very similar records but the pathway is different. Javy did start 2004 13-6.

According to the NY Post, Pettitte pitches in a sumulated game today in Tampa. Meanwhile, Aceves goes for Trenton tomorrow. Hopefully both rehabs go well and both are back soon.

Bad news for the Braves and their quest to try to hold off the Phils in the NL East. Chipper Jones has a torn ACL and is done for the year. With the rumors of retirement, is the 38 year old Chipper done? He was at .265-10-46 for 2010, with an OPS+ of 118. If this is it, Jones retires with a .306 average, 436 HR and 2490 hits. To me, the 1999 NL MVP is a HOFer.

It’s a close call between Jones (.306, 436 HR, 2490 hits, OPS+ 142) and Eddie Mathews (.271, 512 HR, 2315 hits, OPS+ 143) as to who the all-time Braves 3B should be.

Hmmm…. all I can say about the K-Rod assault charge is this. His father-in-law probably said that his favorite relief pitcher was Brian Bruney.

A decent day for Tiger Woods. Even and four back as I write this. After last weekend, he’ll certainly take that.  

Gardner is top rookie in camp, Sheppard officially out, and a look at another player dumped shortly before #500.

Pete Abraham reports that Joba hit 95/96 today. More like it.

Gardner was named the top rookie in camp. The J. P. Dawson award (named after an ex-writer who passed on in 1953; yeah, I had to look up who J. P. Dawson was last year).

See the comments in the previous post. Thanks to Nick for asking if Gardner qualifies as a rookie. He does. Barely. 

The Yanks made it official in announcing that Bob Sheppard won’t make opening day. It’s been a long time, as I reported this week. You hate to think it, but you wonder if he ever makes it back.

As reported in the previous post, Gary Sheffield was released today by the Tigers. Sheffield has 499 HR.

From 1952-1966, Eddie Mathews played for the Braves. In so doing, he played for the Braves in all three places—the last year in Boston, the entire Milwaukee tenure, and the first year in Atlanta. He was the only player to do so. After the 1966 season, a couple of deals went down.

The first one involved Clete Boyer. The Yankees traded him to the Braves for two players, the touted one being Bill Robinson, who was hyped greatly but never panned out for the Yanks. This happened 11/29/66. Now the Yanks needed a 3B, but had an OF. Less than two weeks later, they got rid of a disgruntled OF in Roger Maris for a 3B. Maris to the Cardinals for Charlie Smith. Smith didn’t last long with the Yanks. (These were the darkest of the CBS dark ages).

Meanwhile, with the trade of Boyer to the Braves, the Braves had Mathews AND Boyer and of course, no DH. Felipe Alou, coming off a .327-31-74 year, was at 1B. On December 31, 1966, Mathews was the key figure in a trade by the Braves to the Astros. At the time of the trade, Mathews was tied with Gehrig with 493 HR. As with Sheff, so much for the milestone, see ya later. On July 14, 1967, exactly two months after Mickey Mantle became the 6th player (after Ruth, Foxx, Ott, Ted Williams and Mays) to hit #500, Mathews became the seventh, connecting off of Juan Marichal at Candlestick Park. Mathews ended his career with 512.