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Off day happenings. A lot of Boston from here in.

News from Twitter and various sources.

Talk about never emptying your suitcase! In the past 5 weeks or so, Chris Schwinden has been released, picked up, DFA’d, … he’s been with the Mets, Blue Jays, Indians, Yankees and now back to the Mets.

No word yet on who pitches in what game on Saturday. Kuroda tomorrow night, Hughes/Garcia Saturday in a day/night DH, and Nova on Sunday.

It’s unbearably hot in the Northeast. Where I am, in the Lehigh Valley of PA, there are heat warnings through Saturday, and it could be extended into Sunday.

Still bitching about the trade that sent Montero and Noesi to Seattle and landed the Yanks Campos (minor league DL after a good start) and Pineda (nothing at all this year, shoulder surgery)?

Well, Noesi was sent to the minors today by Seattle. 2-11, 5.77. Meanwhile, Montero has just 1 RBI in his last 99 at bats.

The second half of the Yankees season begins tomorrow in Boston, and 17 of their second half games are against the Red Sox. That’s 21%, or slightly better than once every five games.

Baseball is strange. As Buster Olney points out, the A’s are four games better than the Phils, and who’d have thunk that the Phils right now would be the second-best team in PA behind the FIRST PLACE PIRATES? (and they are 9 1/2 games WORSE than Pittsburgh to boot!)

Plans can go awry

With the Pineda trade giving the major league Yankees nothing for 2012 (and who knows for how much longer), some places and people are bashing Brian Cashman. Which I think is unfair. As they say, the best laid plans of mice and men often go astray.

I hated giving up Montero. But I saw what Cashman was trying to do in the deal. Use Montero—whose bat may be great but whose defense may necessitate him being used primarily at DH—for a young, hard-throwing possible future ace. The DH spot needs to be freed up for the aging Jeter and A-Rod. We’ve seen Girardi use both as DHs against lefties, thus resting them while getting Nunez some playing time. Montero’s development wouldn’t be enhanced by being a part-time DH, and if you are going to have A-rod or Jeter DH against the lefty pitchers, then all you need is a lefty DH (like Ibanez) against the righties. Which Montero is not. In theory, the trade made sense.

Let’s look past what Montero (.281, 2 HR, OPS+ 94) and Noesi (1-2, 9.49) are doing for Seattle so far. One is so-so so far (although young, just 22, with the ability to improve), the other awful. Pineda has given (and will, for quite some time) the Yankees absolutely nothing, while Jose Campos is still just 19 and at Low A. Campos is doing well (3-0, 1.23) but is years away—if he makes it at all. Maybe, if say Campos is the 2017 Rookie of the Year, the trade will be looked at differently and people may be praising Cashman. But with the win-now mentality of the Yankees and many of their fans, patience in Yankees Universe is rare.

But the need to win now can cause overreactions. We saw plenty of that from the Boss with various win-now moves that he made. Buhner for Phelps, for instance.

We have to remember that there is a future, and that future—without Jeter, Pettitte, A-Rod and Rivera—will be here sooner than one may like. The trade for Pineda was a trade made for that future. The hope was for a good, young rotation that would be inexpensive and help to keep the Yankees payroll under the luxury tax limit.

Cashman can only rely on scouting reports and get a healthy young player with potential. It’s not like he traded for a proven bum. This wasn’t say, trading Montero for Sidney Ponson or something like that. This was about dealing for a youngster with considerable upside.

But Cashman can only swing the deal. He isn’t the player. Cashman isn’t the person who came into camp twenty pounds overweight. He isn’t the person who takes the mound or plays a position. Eventually, it’s the player who has to produce.

Has Cashman made mistakes? Sure. (Igawa) Who hasn’t?

But he had the right idea. Players do get hurt. Would Cashman receive the same criticism for the deal if, say, Pineda had injured himself in a car accident and been lost for the year by that method? People may have criticized him for a bad deal, but there isn’t anything Cashman could have done had that scenario occurred.

There was nothing to indicate that this injury would occur when Cashman made the deal.

Just as there was nothing to indicate that the AAA rotation, which was thought to be a strength just two months ago, would be as bad as it is right now.

Dellin Betances and Manny Banuelos were, and are, two of the top prospects in the Yankees system. One, or both, would have been desired in any major trade. They, along with Pineda, were considered cornerstones for the future rotation. Instead, Pineda will be out a long time, while the currently DL’d Banuelos (0-1, 10.13) and the active Betances (0-2, 8.83) have been extreme disappointments thus far. Even B-level prospect Adam Warren as a 6.10 ERA.

The goal and intent (to have a surplus of good young pitching) of Cashman’s was noble.

In the end, the players themselves have to accept responsibility and perform.

Cashman says he’d do the deal 10 times out of 10 with the information he had at the time. I don’t blame him.

After all, he isn’t Nostradamus.

Young pitching?

Ok. So the Yanks gave up Montero for Pineda. They also gave up Noesi for Campos. What does this mean?

First, the catchers. Apparently the Yanks built up Montero (22) knowing he never could catch. They also recognize that with A-Rod and Jeter aging, that they couldn’t have a 22 yr. old DH. Alex and Jete both need to DH… and often.

Montero. 61 AB. .328-4-12. OPS+ 159.

So… they still have at catcher:

Russell Martin. Just 29 in Feb. Yanks Starter in 2011; .237-18-65 in 2011. OPS+ 92.

Francisco Cervelli. 26 in March. .266-4-22 as a backup in 2011. OPS+ 89.

Notice the ages.

Austin Romine remains.  The 23 yr. old probably starts the year at AAA. He had a brief (3 for 19) stay with the Yanks in 2011. In 89 games, mostly AA in 2011, .286-6-47.

Now for after Romine…. Gary Sanchez. 19. Low A in 2011. .256-17-52. 82 games.

20 year old J.R. Murphy spent 2011 at low A and High A. .287-7-46, 86 games.

Meaning that if the Yanks felt that Montero could not catch, he was gone.

You can see the depth that the Yanks had in C in the minors, esp. if they believed that all were better defensively than Montero. In return for Montero, they got not one, but TWO pitching studs in Pineda and Campos.

So pitching-wise, what did Cashman bring us?

Ok . Kuroda, 37 next month, is a stop-gap. 13-16, 3.07 in 2011.

Pineda. 23 next week. 9-10, 3.74 for Seattle in 2011.
Campos. 5-5, 2.32 at age 19, low A, 81 1/3 IP, 85 K, 13 walks.

So who is left?

Betances. 24 in March. 2.2 IP Yanks 2011. Minors 2011 4-9, 3.70. 142 K/126.1 IP.

Banuelos. 21 in March. 6-7, 3.75 in minors 2011. 125 K in 129 2/3 IP.

Dave Phelps. 25. 7-7, 2.99. Minors.

Adam Warren 24. 6-8, 3.60.

D. J. Mitchell. 24. 13-9, 3.18 in AAA 2011.

Phil Hughes 25. 5-5, 5.79. Majors.

Joba. 26. 2-0, 2.83 before arm injury in 2011.

D-Rob. 27 in April. 4-0, 1.08 in MLB last year.

Noesi dealt. Wade brought back. 28. 6-1, 2.04 in 2011.

Lastly, Nova. 16-4 with the big club in 2011. 3.70 ERA.
He was 25 yesterday
.

There is young talent here, be it in relief (Hughes/Joba/D-Rob or a prospect.) Much as I hate losing Montero, you can see there are catching prospects. (Bat not as good, but better D, handling of pitchers?)

Give Ca$h some credit. He is stocking up on some top-quality arms.

Yanks trade Montero, get Seattle’s Pineda; sign Kuroda

The Yanks and Mariners made a major deal involving two young, hot prospects tonight when the Yanks sent 22 year old Jesus Montero (.328-4-12 in 61 AB last year) for Michael Pineda (23 next week). Pineda was 9-10, 3.74 for Seattle in 2011, was an All-Star, and finished 5th in the ROY voting.

Pineda was 8-5, 2.58 after games of July 4th last year, but faded badly, going 1-5, 5.71 after that. Still, he could team with Banuelos and Betances to give the Yanks a young and hopefully good core (and inexpensive to start) behind CC. Let’s not forget Nova (just turned 25 yesterday) and Hughes (still 25). Joba is 26. David Robertson turns 27 in April. Then there’s Phelps, Warren, Mitchell.

The Yanks also gave up Hector Noesi (2-2, 4.47 in 2011, 25 at the end of this month) in the deal but got a 19 year old RHP in Jose Campos who is getting good reviews. Campos was 5-5, 2.32 in Low A for the Mariners in 2011, 85 K, just 13 walks in 81 1/3 IP.

After making that deal, the Yanks pulled off another stunner. They signed Hiroki Kuroda to a one-year deal worth $10 million. Kuroda was 13-16, 3.07 for the Dodgers in 2011. He will be 37 next month and despite his 41-46 record, has an ERA of 3.45 in his career. Granted it’s the NL. But he can be a one-year stopgap to let Betances, Banuelos and the others develop.

Cashman is stockpiling young pitching. Robertson, 27, then Joba, Hughes, Pineda, Nova, Banuelos, Betances, Warren, Mitchell, Phelps…

Per Jack Curry (YES Network) Yanks rotation now CC, Pineda, Kuroda, Nova, with Hughes, AJ and Garcia battling for the 5 spot.

So who will DH? Well, for one thing, A-Rod and Jeter may need to DH more, meaning more playing time for Nunez. For another thing, Damon and Carlos Pena are still out there.

As for Pena, his average over the last four years is like this: .224. Ugh. 32 HR and 92 RBI (good). 93 walks (good). 162 strikeouts (not good). OPS+ 122 (good).

That’s all for now… stay tuned!

What young Yankee pitcher will step up next?

With a recent article by Joel Sherman suggesting that the Yanks may not be active in the free agent market for a while due to the new CBA agreement and a more conservative Steinbrenner trying to rein in the budget, it looks like the Yanks are, more and more, looking to their own system for pitching help.

Oh, they will bring someone in, but as we’ve seen, it’s been more the Freddy Garcia, reasonably priced types (Colon last year too) and it doesn’t appear to look like the C.J. Wilson/Mark Buehrle/Edwin Jackson/Hiroki Kuroda types—not unless their prices drop considerably. Of course the A.J. Burnett contract continues to hurt.

An aside: Mike Vaccaro of the Post listed the NY Giants Brandon Jacobs as moving up on the list of NY players who frustrate you the most on a consistent basis. He called it (touche) the “A.J. award.” Brilliant. (I wish there was a way to put that accent over the e in touche).

In 2011, we saw the emergence of Ivan Nova, who went 16-4, 3.70, ERA+ 119. Hopefully he doesn’t take a step back in 2012. No, I don’t expect 16-4 again, but as long as he goes 14-8 or so…and not take the step backwards that…

Phil Hughes did. In 2010, it was Hughes who stepped up, going 18-8, 4.19, ERA+ 103. Of course, Hughes was impressive in 2009 in relief, with a record of 8-3, 3.03, ERA+ 152.

Now the thing is this: Both, on opening day 2012, will be 25 years old.

It seems the Yanks are breaking in a pitcher or two a year, and that is good. Nova broke in in 2010, exploded in 2011. Hughes broke in in 2007, exploded in 2009-2010 but regressed last year. Hopefully he comes into 2012 with a chip on his shoulder over how 2011 panned out.

But both are still young, and they aren’t the only ones.

David Robertson will be 27 shortly after opening day 2012. He broke in in 2008, was a key member of the 2009 WS Champs, and absolutely was devastating last season, going 4-0, 1.08, ERA+ 410(!).

Lest we forget, Joba Chamberlain was having a good season in 2011 before needing T.J. surgery (2-0, 2.83, ERA+ 158). Joba should be back sometime before the All-Star break. Joba broke in in 2007, and it could be debated that he hasn’t exploded since that 2007 debut. Of course the “Joba rules”, and the starter/reliever back-and-forth may have restricted him. But it is possible that his explosion year is yet to come.

Now, the argument remains that some are relievers. Robertson, Joba, and maybe Hughes is better suited for relief than starting. But at least the Yanks are breaking in a young pitcher each year, and a young pitcher who somewhere over the next couple of years after their debut, has made an impact.

Who’ll be next?

Brian Cashman is touting Hector Noesi as possibly 2012’s Ivan Nova. No one expects 16-4 out of Noesi, but he made his MLB debut in 2011 (2-2, 4.47, ERA+ 99) and 2012 could be a breakout year for him. Noesi will be 25 on Opening Day 2012. Since Noesi had 56 1/3 IP in the majors last year, he’s pitching in the Dominican League to build up more innings, and so far he is pitching well.

Behind Noesi, who? (ages as of Opening Day 2012).

Adam Warren, 24. 6-8, 3.60 at AAA in 2011, 152 1/3 IP.

David Phelps, 25. 6-6, 3.19 at AAA in 2011, 7-7, 2.99 overall. He missed a little time in 2011, getting just 114 1/3 innings.

D.J. Mitchell, 24. He had the best record of those who may see their MLB debut in 2012, going 13-9, 3.18 at AAA in 161 1/3 innings.

Dellin Betances, 24. He got into two games with the Yanks late in the season, going 0-0, 6.75 in 2 2/3 IP. Between AA/AAA, he was 4-9, 3.70, with 142 K in 126 1/3 IP. He probably needs more AAA time but could come back to NY for good in mid to late 2012.

Manny Banuelos, 21. No need to rush him, he’s still very young. The lefty went 6-7, 3.75 combined AA/AAA in 2011, with 125 K in 129 2/3 IP. He also probably needs considerable AAA time, and maybe 2013 is a more realistic timeframe for his MLB debut.

Shaeffer Hall. 24. Overlooked amongst the others, but a lefty who was 11-8, 4.07 between AA and AAA this past season.

So the question for 2012 is, after seeing recent breakthroughs by Hughes, Joba, Robertson and Nova, who’ll breakthrough in 2012? Noesi? One of the others? Who’ll make his MLB debut? Who may have that breakout year that Joba had when he broke in in 2007, Hughes had 2009/2010 or Nova had this past season?

It seems that the Rays are breaking in a young pitcher every so often. Price. Hellickson. Now Matt Moore (who can forget that great playoff start he had?).

If the Yanks can match the Rays in this regard, it’d be great. Perhaps necessary.

With the restrictions on the Yanks’ maneuverability due to payroll, necessary could be the word.

Game 160. Rays beat Yanks 5-2, tie Red Sox for wild card.

Phil Hughes is going to the bullpen, where he’ll be for the postseason. As for A.J/Colon, that’s a different story. No word there.

Noesi gets his 2nd MLB start. Teix and Swish off tonight.

Jeter 6  .300-6-61  16sb/22att  OPS+ 98  .300!    3088 hits
Granderson 8 .266-41-119  24/34  141 leads MLB in R, AL in RBI
Cano 4 .304-27-116  8/10  130
A-Rod DH .278-16-62  4/5  117   629 HR still 1 HR behind Griffey
Posada 3 .242-14-44  0/2  92    275 career HR 
Chavez 5 .265-2-26  0/0  80
Martin 2 .236-17-64  8/10  91
Nunez 9 .261-5-30  21/27  80
Gardner 7 .258-7-36  48/61  89   leads AL in SB.

Noesi 1 (2-1, 4.14), ERA+ 107

Cano gets #28 in the first. 1-0 Yankees.

In the 3rd, Gardner singles, Jeter singles, Cano RBI single makes it 2-0.

Noesi gives that up in the 3rd. Single, walk, double tie the game. Single puts 1st and 3rd, and Noesi is gone.

Granted that the last two outings were is first two MLB starts, but those outings seem to have cost Noesi a postseason berth.

Valdes in. He gets a K, gets an RBI single by Damon. The Rays try a double steal and both runners are thrown out, DP 2-6-3-2. Rays 3-2 after three.

Noesi: 2 IP+, 3 R, 5 H, 2 walks, 1 K. ERA to 4.47. Like I said, pitched himself off the postseason roster. He goes to 2-2, 4.47.

Valdes gives up a HR to Shoppach in the 4th. 4-2 Rays.

Valdes 2 IP, 1 R, 2 H, 0 walks, 2 K. ERA to 3.27.

Hughes for the 5th. Flyout, lineout, 2 walks. Martin gets ejected. Romine in. Popup.

1 2/3 for Hughes. 0 R, 1 H, 2 walks, 1 K. 5.86.

Kontos in.

2/3, 1 R, 0 H, 2 walks, 1 K. 3.38. It goes to 5-2.

Ayala 1 IP, 0 R, 1 H, 1 walk, 1 K. ERA to 1.64.

Brackman the final 2/3. 0 R, 0 H, 1 walk, 0 K. 0.00.

The Rays win 5-4. Bumbling Boston lost again, and now it’s a flat out tie for the wild card lead with two games left.

If there is a 163rd game, it’ll be in Tampa.

I texted a couple of friends tonight. We are in agreement. This may be the only time in our lives where we hope the Yanks throw in the towel and tank it—just to screw Boston.

Game 154. Yankees win opener, clinch playoff spot. #603 for Mo.

Phil Hughes was scratched from today’s game (day game of a day/night DH) due to back spasms. Hector Noesi makes his 1st MLB start.

Yanks 93-60, 6 up on Boston with 9 to go. Magic #’s 3 for the division (over Boston) and 2 for a playoff berth (over the Rays). The Yanks could win the division by sweeping the Rays today combined with a Red Sox loss.

Four games worse than the Pythagorean record. OPS+ 108, ERA+ 120.

Day off for Teixeira, Martin & Granderson. Cano DHs, Romine C…and Jorge at 1B in what could be one of his last home games as a Yankee.

Gardner CF .262-7-36  45sb/58 att   OPS+ 92  AL SB leader
Jeter SS .296-5-57  15/21  95    .300? 3082 hits
Cano DH .305-26-113  8/10  130
Rodriguez 3B .281-16-60  4/5  119   629 HR
Swisher RF .261-23-84  2/4  118
Posada 1B .238-13-40  0/2  88   how many Yankee games left? 
Jones LF .243-11-29  0/0 119  418 HR
Nunez 2B .261-4-29  19/25  79
Romine C  1 for 7 in MLB career

Noesi P    2-1, 4.01   ERA+ 111   1st MLB start

Nice piece on Mo by Joel Sherman in a special NY Post section. Check it out, either by getting the paper or going online. “Mariano’s Mountain.”

Quick lead for the Yanks. After Noesi has a 1-2-3 in the top half of the first, Jeter singles, A-Rod doubles. 1-0 Yanks.

Noesi doesn’t last long. Pitch count trouble. He gives up a 2-run HR in the 3rd. Valdes in.

Noesi 2 2/3, 2 R, 4 H, 1 walk, 2 K. ERA to 4.14. 55 pitches.

End of three, 2-1 Rays.

Off to work. Recap later.

RECAP: The Yanks clinched a playoff spot with a 4-2 win. Down 2-1 going into the bottom of the 8th, Eduardo Nunez tied it up with HR #5.  With one out, Gardner singled, SB #46 followed, and Jeter walked. Whereupon Cano (how about HIM for MVP consideration?) doubled in two.

Valdes went 1 1/3, 0 R, 1 H, 1 walk, 3 K. 2.25.

Kontos 2/3 IP, 0 R, 1 H, 0 walks or K. 3.86.

Laffey 2/3, 0 R, 1 H, 0 walks, 1 K. 4.10 (Sea/NYY).

Wade 1 1/3, 0 R, 0 h, 0 walks, 1 K. 1.98.

Logan (Joe used everyone, like a S.T. game) 2/3, 0 R, 1 H, 0 walks, 0 K. 2.92.

Ayala the win. 2-2, 1.69. 2/3, 0 R, 0 H, 0 walks, 2 K.

… and #603 for Mo, who gets the save with a 1-2-3 9th. GO, K, flyout. Mo’s 44th save of the year (and he turns 42 in 10 weeks!) lowers his ERA to 1.95.