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Yanks to honor 4, retire 3 numbers.

I was going to write a column looking at 2020, and look to what we can expect in the future, but that will have to wait.

For this column is to honor the past.

Today, the Yankees announced that #51 for Bernie Williams will be retired on May 24 (I’ll be there that day. I was there for #23, Don Mattingly and for #42, Mariano Rivera). On August 22nd they will retire the number of #20, Jorge Posada (I think I have to work that day) and on August 23rd they will retire #46 for Andy Pettitte (I will be there for that one).

In addition, on Old-Timer’s Day this year, Willie Randolph will join recent legends Paul O’Neill, Tino Martinez and Goose Gossage by getting a plaque in Monument Park (no retired number).

No word on when Jeter’s #2 gets retired.

So the Yanks are going to have a serious problem. Once Jeter’s number is retired, that will be 20 retired numbers. Now, there are a few I believe should NOT be retired. I know I’m opening a can of worms here, but here goes. Should these numbers be retired? For the way things are going, the Yanks are 1) going to look like a football team with #82 playing CF, or 2) need to go to 1A, 2A, 3A, etc.

#1 Billy Martin (I believe it shouldn’t be retired. Billy was a major factor in three WS titles as a player, and hit .333 in the WS. He was WS MVP in 1953 when he had 12 hits in six games. He made a WS saving catch in Game 7 of the 1952 Series. He managed the Yanks to a WS title—-but in comparison, Ralph Houk managed the yanks to TWO WS titles, and Houk’s #35 won’t be retired —. Billy was a .257 career hitter. He wasn’t even the best player to wear #1 (Earle Combs, a HOF, was). No).

#2 Derek Jeter (Not officially retired yet). 3465 hits and 1st ballot HOF screams yes.

#3 Babe Ruth. Ummmm…. greatest Player ever. Yes.

#4 Lou Gehrig. Yes.

#5 Joe DiMaggio. Yes.

#6 Joe Torre. Interesting question. The Yanks have so many numbers retired, that you have to ask, players only? Or include managers. If you include managers, then Torre is a Yes. If players only, no. (BTW, Miller Huggins and Joe McCarthy never wore a number).

#7 Mickey Mantle. Yes.

#8 Bill Dickey and Yogi Berra. Both Yes.

#9 Roger Maris. No. Honor Roger’s 1961 with a plaque, but not the number. .260 career hitter. GREAT for 1960 and 1961, very good in 1962, above average 1963-1964, not even average in 1965-1966. Sweeney Murti argues that Graig Nettles, who also wore #9, should get a plaque in Monument Park. Speaking of, Willie Randolph is getting a plaque. How about Tony Lazzeri and Joe Gordon getting plaques? Both are in the HOF. Willie won’t be. Love Willie, but….

#10. Phil Rizzuto. No. Plaque yes, honoring his 56 or so years of service, but not retire the number.

#13… just kidding. Based on his suspension and turbulent relations with the Yankees, I’ll be shocked if the Yanks honor A-Rod.

#15 Thurman Munson. Yes. Esp. considering the circumstances of his passing.

#16 Whitey Ford. Yes.

#20 Jorge Posada. No. No Offense to Jorge, but unless you are HOF, it’s hard to justify retiring the number.

#23. Don Mattingly. No. I was there when they retired his number. I loved Donnie, but is he more worthy or better than two people who each got a plaque but whose numbers aren’t retired? O’Neill or Tino? I think not. Also, no HOF. Should have the same treatment as Paul and Tino. Plaque, no retired #. Hey, with so many retired numbers, we have to be tough here.

#32. Elston Howard. Plaque yes, retired number, no. 1st black on the Yanks, 1st AL Black MVP, but not a HOF. Tough call, but no.

#37 Casey Stengel. See Torre above. If you want players only, no. If you include managers, yes.

#44 Reggie. No. Only was with the Yanks 1977-1981, not long enough. Plaque yes, retired number, no.

#46 Andy Pettitte. Close call. No. Chuck Knoblauch, who is in the Mitchell report along with Andy (HGH) blasts the selection of Pettitte. I’d argue yes, but it’s a close call. By the way, Red Ruffing #15 and Allie Reynolds #22 both have plaques, no retired number. Of course, #15 is retired for Munson.

#49 Ron Guidry. No. Tough Call. I loved the Gator, but no HOF and not even 200 wins.

#51 Bernie. Tough call, but no HOF. The only difference between him getting his # retired and Paul and Tino getting just plaques is that Bernie spent 16 years as a Yankee while Paul and Tino spent considerable time with other teams (Cincy and Seattle).

So I eliminated 10 numbers, 12 if you think players only should have the numbers retired. This isn’t to disrespect the players whose numbers I want to “unretire” but to state which I think should be retired vs. those I think the Yanks went overboard on.

The Yanks could have a problem in years to come. Hopefully I am alive to see it. It means I would have lived through one more dynasty.

 

 

Yankees make incremental move.

You remember when, in playing SCAT, the card game, that you would put down a 3 of hearts and pick up a 5 of hearts because it gave you more points? (Especially if you already held the Ace and King of Hearts?)

That is kind of like the move the Yankees did yesterday. They picked up Chris Martin for cash from Colorado. Martin is a RHP, and a project. He did make the majors last season, and went 0-0, 6.89 in 16 games. 15 2/3 IP, 14 K. He is 6’8″, a big boy, and 28 years old.

In picking him up, they DFA’d Gonzalez German, a 27-year-old RHP, who they got from the Mets for cash just last month. German was 0-0, 4.75 for the Mets in 2014 in 25 games, 31 K in 30 1/3 IP.

Apparently the Yanks felt that Martin is, or has to potential to be, an incremental upgrade over Germen. We’ll see. It doesn’t appear like a major move or upgrade, but…. see the SCAT reference above.

The Yanks finalized their coaching staff. The hitting coach will be Jeff Pentland, who will have Alan Cockrell as the asst. hitting coach. Joe Espada (3b/infield). Tony Pena moves to 1b Coach and Rob Thomson becomes the bench coach. Larry Rothschild is the pitching coach and Gary Tuck the BP coach.

One thing I’ve pointed out elsewhere. Some people wanted a former major leaguer to be a coach. Sometimes it works. But coaches have to teach and just because someone was talented themselves doesn’t mean they can teach. Charlie Lau was a great hitting coach who was a .255 hitting catcher. Meanwhile, Ted Williams was the manager of the 1972 Texas Rangers who only hit .217 as a team.

So the #4 seed won the national championship? What’s scary is that Urban Meyer thought next year would be the time. A lot of sophs and juniors here. Ohio St. and TCU (who finished #3) are on top of a lot of lists right now for the best of next year.

Championship Sunday is set. AFC: Colts @ Patriots (the 4th straight AFC title game for New England), and NFC: Green Bay @ Seattle. Both home teams are favored by about 7.

 

Managers of the Year: Buck, Matt Williams

Buck Showalter and Matt Williams were named the AL and NL Managers of the year today, respectively.

For Buck, it is the third time he has won the award, following the 1994 Yankees (who had the best record in the AL at the time of the strike) and the 2004 Texas Rangers.

The minors.

AAA: SWB’s game with LV was suspended due to rain with the game tied in the bottom of the 8th. It will be completed before the reg. scheduled game today (Monday).

AA: 4-2 Trenton loss. CF Mason Williams 3 for 3 with an RBI. Jaron Long (son of Yanks’ hitting coach Kevin) took the loss.

High A: Tampa lost 6-3. Solo HR SS Cito Culver. 2 rbi for 3B Mike Ford.

Low A: 3B Kale Sumner 2 rbi in Charleston’s 5-0 win. LF Mike O’Neill (Paul’s nephew) and DH Miguel Andujar each had 2 hits and and rbi.

 

The minors.

It doesn’t appear any of the top levels (AAA, AA, High A or Low A) will make it to the postseason.

AAA: SWB (65-72) lost 4-2. Preston Claiborne gave up 3 R in 2 IP. 1B Kyle Roller 2 hits, 1 rbi.

AA: Trenton (65-70) won 9-2. Dan Camarena 8 IP, 1 R, 3 H, 12 K. C Gary Sanchez (.269-13-65) a 3-run HR. CF Mason Williams with a Grand Slam. Solo HR for 1B Greg Bird.

High A: Tampa was off. They are 35-28 in the second half of the season, 2 games back with 7 to play. Their “tragic number” is 5. There is a chance, albeit slight, that they can win their division for the second half. They were 33-37 in the first half, 13 1/2 back.

Low A:  Charleston was off. They are 33-30 in the second half after going 33-37 in the first half.

High A and Low A leagues use split seasons.

The Minors.

Michael Pineda could be close to rejoining the Yankees. Bruce Billings was picked up by the Dodgers.

AAA: Pineda tossed 4 1/3 innings for SWB in their 2-1 loss Friday night. 52 of Pineda’s 72 pitches were strikes. He took the loss, going 4 1/3, 1 R, 6 H, 0 walks and 7 K. SWB’s only run came on a HR by 1B Kyle Roller. C John Ryan Murphy had 2 hits.

AA: Trenton won 9-0. Jairo Heredia (4-1, 3.48 at AA) 6 scoreless, 6 K. RF Tyler Austin 3 h, double, HR, 4 rbi. CF Mason Williams 2 h, HR, 4 rbi. C Gary Sanchez 2 hits and just promoted 3B Dante Bichette, Jr. 2 hits and an RBI.

High A: Tampa off.

Low A: Charleston won 6-3. CF Dustin Fowler and 3B Kale Sumner each had 2 H, 2 RBI.

The minors.

AAA: SWB won 6-4. Recently DFA’d Chris LeRoux 6 IP, 1 R. 2B Jose Pirela 3 hits (.310). RF Rob Refsnyder 2 hits (.296). DH Kyle Roller 2 hits, rbi. 1B Austin Romine 2 h, 2 rbi. Romine is up to .249 after a brutal start to the season.

AA: 6-1 win for Trenton. Zach Nuding (7-2, 2.71) 1 R in 6 IP. 2 h, HR, 2 rbi for C Gary Sanchez (.279-11-53). 2 RBI CF Mason Williams. LF Ben Gamel 2 h, rbi. 3 hits for SS Ali Castillo.

High A: Tampa lost 3-1. RF Aaron Judge 0 for 1, 4 walks.

Low A: 6-5 win for Charleston. CF Mark Payton 2 h, HR, 3 rbi. 1B Rey Nunez HR, 2 rbi.